Book of Mormon Notes– How deep can you dig?

2011, February 21

“Book of Mormon: Hope in Ether’s Coming from Captivity” by grego

“Book of Mormon: Hope in Ether’s Coming from Captivity”


In preparation for what is to come (see my previous article “American Prison/ Concentration/ Detention Camps: For LDS/ Mormons, Freedom-Lovers, and Debtors?” by grego ‎), I found the following verses about the great prophet Ether very hopeful:

Ether 11:14 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat Moron. And it came to pass that Moron did reign in his stead; and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord.
15 And it came to pass that there arose a rebellion among the people, because of that secret combination which was built up to get power and gain; and there arose a mighty man among them in iniquity, and gave battle unto Moron, in which he did overthrow the half of the kingdom; and he did maintain the half of the kingdom for many years.
16 And it came to pass that Moron did overthrow him, and did obtain the kingdom again.
17 And it came to pass that there arose another mighty man; and he was a descendant of the brother of Jared.
18 And it came to pass that he did overthrow Moron and obtain the kingdom; wherefore, Moron dwelt in captivity all the remainder of his days; and he begat Coriantor.
19 And it came to pass that Coriantor dwelt in captivity all his days.
20 And in the days of Coriantor there also came many prophets, and prophesied of great and marvelous things, and cried repentance unto the people, and except they should repent the Lord God would execute judgment against them to their utter destruction;
21 And that the Lord God would send or bring forth another people to possess the land, by his power, after the manner by which he brought their fathers.
22 And they did reject all the words of the prophets, because of their secret society and wicked abominations.
23 And it came to pass that Coriantor begat Ether, and he died, having dwelt in captivity all his days.

Ether was born in captivity. He was the son of Coriantor, who was a captive his entire life; who was the son of Moron, who was a captive for part of his life. Moron was a wicked ruler who was overthrown and made captive by a wicked man at the head of a secret society/ secret combination/ [Gadianton robber].

So, if in the future you get put in a camp for captives, it might be possible to not only survive, but even to have a prophet as a descendant.

2011, February 17

“Lessons from Joseph in Egypt: Slavery of a People” by grego

Lessons from Joseph in Egypt: Slavery of a People


In Genesis 47 we read that Joseph of Egypt bought out the Egyptians for pharaoh becauae they lacked food—Joseph traded food for their money, then for their cattle, then for their land and 20% of their crops.

Joseph clearly saved them, they knew it too and were glad to be servants instead of dying. That standing 20% of crops to pharaoh? Well, really, it’s s much less than most people owe and have to pay back to banks (that usually never had the money to lend in the first place), just for their house.

I don’t doubt that for a permanent shack and a chicken in the pot, socialism/ communism/ whatever you want to call the variation that the powers that be will try to institute in the USA will make a good case that many people will gladly accept. What will the banks accept? What will companies like Monsanto accept? Is this what they are driving at?

Lessons for me from this Biblical story:
–get revelation.
–prepare and save.
–don’t rely on money for survival. Money will fail.
–store food.
–preparing puts you in a freer, more powerful position (at least if pharaoh has your back, haha—ok, really, it will).
–(if all else fails) become a priest (they were exempt from losing their land and 20% tax).
–when you see the signs and know the prophecies and the future, do something about it!

By the way:
It is very likely that without doing what Joseph had done, his family never would have been able to live/ survive in Egypt. Jacob feared to go to Egypt, notwithstanding almost certain death for his entire family if he didn’t:
Genesis 46:3 And he said, I am God, the God of thy father: fear not to go down into Egypt; for I will there make of thee a great nation:
4 I will go down with thee into Egypt; and I will also surely bring thee up again: and Joseph shall put his hand upon thine eyes.
Perhaps this was at least part of the reason:
Genesis 46:34 That ye shall say, Thy servants’ trade hath been about cattle from our youth even until now, both we, and also our fathers: that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen; *for every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians*.

2011, February 16

“American Prison/ Concentration/ Detention Camps: For LDS/ Mormons, Freedom-Lovers, and Debtors?” by grego

American Prison/ Concentration/ Detention Camps: For LDS/ Mormons, Freedom-Lovers, and Debtors?


Ok, this will sound far out to most everyone. Think of this, though: to the Jews in Germany, to the Japanese in the USA during World War II, and to the Muslims recently in Guantanamo, it was all some freak impossible illusion before it happened, too, right?

I’m not going to go into a whole lot of explanation, evidence, or otherwise here about these camps that are spread out all across America, ALREADY built and waiting; many other websites have done that very well. (No, you haven’t heard about this on the news, and you won’t hear it on the news. Sure, some people have mixed this stuff up with aliens and other stuff… get over it.;) ) If you want more info, search the internet for america+concentration+camp or similar phrase, or look at some of these sites to get an inkling of the info that there is:

If you are a righteous Mormon/ LDS, you will possibly get to experience one of them first-hand in the future. If you love freedom, don’t want to give up and go with the coming change in government, speak out about government abuse, etc., etc., you also will get up close and personal.

Whoops. One more thing.

First, though, a quick review: Joseph in Egypt gathered up all the Egyptian citizens’ money in exchange for food; then their cattle; then their land; then their freedom/ they became slaves.

So here’s that “one more thing”: debt.

Do you have adequate food? If not, what will the government require of you in exchange?

Do you owe money on a house? Do you owe money on a credit card? Do you owe money on an education? Do you owe money to the bank for anything?

I believe that in the future, if you can’t pay it off, you will go to debtors’ prison.

So even if you avoid standing out or standing up, if you owe, you will go—or become a fugitive.

When you get there, will you work like many in the concentration camps before you did, to pay for your “food and housing”; and then—if there is any left—to pay the interest on your debts; and then—if there is any left—to pay for your old debts?


2011, February 15

“LDS/ Mormon Energy Work—My Experiences as Patient/ Healee and Critique/ Criticism of the Energy Healing Modality: Reference Point Therapy (RPT)” by grego

LDS/ Mormon Energy Work—My Experiences as Patient/ Healee and Critique/ Criticism of the Energy Healing Modality: Reference Point Therapy (RPT)


Here I will share some of my experiences with Reference Point Therapy (RPT), my personal critique/ criticism. I watched the videos, the healing demonstrations, the blog material, the theories and the work that this method was based on, and a few testimonials. Everything looked wonderful and powerful, and the people so happy!

After all the sessions, I was told I “got completed” for all of levels 1 and 2 (there is one more level, much more intensive and expensive, with the promises being more flowery and wonderful). I got pretty much what I paid for regarding the healer’s time, but almost nothing in what was promised (see the P.S.).  [I went back and checked notes–three things were better, out of a list of many symptoms and problems, most that were much more serious and higher up on the list I sent.]

I stopped for a while due to a communication problem that resulted unfairly in a further payment, but I figured I would be putting the relationship at risk if I brought it up or didn’t pay, and as I had a package deal with a few more sessions left, I figured that would make me lose out on the rest of the sessions, or at least their effectiveness. Plus, and this was the big thing—I kept thinking (and hoping) that maybe the most progress/ massive healing would be seen in the last session(s), like putting the final pieces in place for complete healing. Experiencing it to completion has also allowed me to critique it without jumping to conclusions or being accused of not having experience it all.

It was an interesting experience, and felt good, little by little, as it was being done.

However… as of now, months later (definitely enough time to notice changes), I can only see two small changes (emotional ones) in my life from it all.

SUMMARY: I spent over $1,000 and maybe 9 hours for this, and came out very little better for it.

Quantum Touch has helped with a few physical problems (head alignment, etc.).
Using SuperEFT(TM) I’ve helped people get over bipolar disorder in four hours, and with normal EFT, major emotional life issues, often in less than an hour (desire to marry from 0 to 11, phobia of water/ drowning, phobia of heights, phobia of underground/ tunnels, long-time anger from 10 to 0, etc.); some chronic pain in less than two minutes.
As a patient/ healee with Yuen Method, I’ve gotten over some chronic major health problems in mere minutes, sometimes less (so nice!).

All in all, based on my experiences, and based on the availability and performance of other energy healing modalities/ choices, I cannot recommend Reference Point Therapy (RPT) to anyone for emotional or physical healing.

So, what did I learn from my experience, and what personal suggestions/ pointers would I make to myself the next time around for energy work, of any mode, and with each healer:

1. Be clear about what you’re getting, for how much, when, etc.
Muscle testing only? Or muscle testing AND corrections along with it? Kinesiology corrections, pendulum corrections, energy work corrections (reiki, QT, EFT, QE, ME, YM, etc.)? Finding out your problems, or general healing for the body to use as it sees fit? Clearing your chakras? What does the “package” entail? What are other options (from other healers and from the same person), and how do they compare with each other/ to the package?

2. Be clear about how to measure progress.
Especially remember to use the 0-10 rating system to get logical, straightforward analysis–after each session (if you have multiple sessions, don’t wait till the very end to do this!). If you’re always working on things that “can’t be measured”, and things that measure really low, you’re not going to see the power of the healing. If someone says it’s going to take a while to see results, or that changes are “deep but subtle, over time”, personally, I would STOP and try another—because there are others that do give great results upfront.

3. Start out with your direst problems close to the top.
That way, you’ll know much more clearly if the healing can help you/ is working.

4. Go slowly.
No matter how good it sounds, start out at the bottom (often with a free session). Then, I would start out with ONE paid session (even if muscle testing or the pendulum say you will need more)—don’t even schedule a second one yet. (If you do, you usually need to pay if you miss, and it’s easier just to not schedule it in the first place.) If you can’t feel any *permanent* big change from that one session, STOP and try another healing method/ modality, or at least another practitioner. Some healers might allow you to put money from one paid session towards a package, if you ask first.
I signed up for the whole shebang (or so I thought) and spent about $900, and saw almost nothing from it (try explaining that to the wife (and yourself)!). I could feel “subtle” changes at the time, and they were great, but it seems that there was nothing big, and what little there was didn’t last/ hold. The practitioner was skilled, seemed to care, etc., and Reference Point Therapy has some great ideas behind it, and maybe it works for others, but for me something is obviously missing or defunct from this healing method/ modality/ experience.

5. Ask very clearly, even when it should be able to be assumed.
I felt cheated out of $125 this way—the practitioner wasn’t clear about an extra-pay session being extra-pay—she wasn’t clear about it at the beginning, I didn’t understand what she was getting at when I felt she rushed into the session, then she talked about payment only after the session (I went back and checked my recording to be double-sure). The practitioner also promised a few things that weren’t followed up on. Don’t feel bad about “feeling stingy”—better to be clear with each other than to have one or both sides feel mad and let down later.

6. Testimonials do count for something, but not for everything.
Listen to what people say. Closely. And to what they don’t say. Closely. Look for *concrete, measurable* changes, from multiple people, in diverse problems/ issues.

Copy/ save their website to your hard drive; keep every email (yours and theirs); each call/ session/ visit (from the start to the finish, not just of the session, but the entire interaction); etc. This is good for everyone; there are times it has helped both sides (with promises, clarity, etc.). I got most everything but one critical part of one call; it would have been much easier if only… I find it amazing how much can change from the first session to the last… If you have records, don’t be afraid to remind the healer about their promises. If the healer is not keeping promises that you have on record/ things aren’t working out, you can usually easily negotiate out. I can publicly post this experience because I DID keep records for most everything. Some USA states have laws about recording, such as disclosure. I find it best to just ask if it’s ok before promising/ scheduling, and if they say no, to choose someone else.

Good luck with healing!

P.S. Here is what was promised in the package:
–rapidly accelerate your spiritual growth. NO
–heal powerfully, rapidly and at the deepest level. NO
–clear patterns of feeling less than, not good enough, like a failure, unsafe, always a victim, never having enough. NO
–connect more fully with your soul’s purpose here. NO
–clear disconnection, abundance problems. NO
–more peace, quiet mind, happiness, contentment, etc. SOME; PERMANENTLY? VERY LITTLE
–achieve higher states of awareness, connection and intuition.
–easily access your own powers of creativity, ability to manifest abundance and romance and to fully feel the enjoyment of life. NO
–connect more fully with your soul’s purpose here. NO
–In addition, there was a promise that anything remaining would be cleared up at the end with a much quicker and more powerful method. NO

Had any of those happened, especially the first one, I would be happy. Live and learn, eh?

“Black Magic/ Negative Energy and Sacred Geometry: Other Purposes for LDS/ Mormon Temple Garments?” by grego

“Black Magic/ Negative Energy and Sacred Geometry: Other Purposes for LDS/ Mormon Temple Garments?”


Many people don’t understand temple garments (religious underwear) very well. Perhaps at least those who understand more about hidden or fringe things will understand better after this.

Temple garments are to be worn by those who have received their endowment in the temple.

Sometimes peopledon’t like wearing them. As clothes, I often don’t like them, either; in fact, I have really disliked them. (The first ones I used to have were sewn terribly—they started out even on the sides under the arms, then twisted so that they were off by maybe more than two inches at the bottom!). But I look at them like I look at seat belts—I don’t like wearing a seat belt, either, but I always do. (Same with my motorcycle helmet—and it’s a great feeling to ride without one!). Why? I understand I’m not “wearing a thing”; I’m giving up a little freedom and comfort by wearing something that will protect me and likely save my life in times of need.

I have heard accounts by people I know about physical (my stake president not chainsawing his leg off when the saw dropped on his leg), spiritual/ paranormal (against evil spirits, for example), and “reminder” protection (for example, when a roommate who was stripping to fornicate had his garments “wake him up”). I don’t doubt those stories. Personally, I don’t remember anything similar and strong that I can clearly point to with my experiences—but then, that’s just like I can’t clearly point to anything good that’s come from lots of other good and accepted habits, either. (Unfortunately, I have had some of those experiences with a seatbelt and a helmet…)

I have thought of two other possible reasons for temple garments recently.

One is black magic/ dark energy work. Every practicing public energy worker offering services that I’ve read about uses energy for the good. On the other hand, I am aware that it’s unlikely something like this is only used for the good, as in my experience evil can almost always find a way to manipulate good things for bad purposes, or find the opposite force and use it. For example, searching “black magic” brings up lots of spells for cursing people; then there’s Australian aboriginal spirit killings/ “bone pointing”. I have little doubt that the true church of Satan and others are doing their best at learning about and using negative energy against good people, and more.

The other came from thinking about “sacred geometry” (which actually has nothing to do with Mormonism/ the LDS Church—you can perform an internet search on that term, in quotes, to find out much more). In this, certain geometric shapes and designs on or around living things increases their vitality, longevity, etc. Perhaps there is something here, too…

UPDATE: maybe garments help with other energy forces, too, like EMF?

2011, February 6

“Book of Mormon | Jarom: Nothing to Add?” by grego

Book of Mormon | Jarom: Nothing to Add?


Another straggler here…

So, the whole book of Jarom is 15 verses, and it’s a little interesting. I’ll particularly mention this part of verse 2:
“…but I shall not write the things of my prophesying, nor of my revelations. For what could I write more than my fathers have written? For have not they revealed the plan of salvation? I say unto you, Yea; and this sufficeth me.”

Jarom is obviously a man who has prophesied and had revelations, and knows others in similar situations; yet, he has nothing to add to the plates. (If that were the case, Mosiah on would be gone!)

Or does he? I think he does, but he purposefully leaves it out for a few reasons:
1. He’s probably thinking about the purpose of the writing (genealogy=done, for the Lamanites=can’t think of what I could add).
2. There isn’t much space left on the plates.
3. Lehi, Nephi, and Jacob did a really good job explaining the plan of salvation; isn’t an understanding of the plan of salvation all that is really needed? Perhaps Jarom wants readers to understand the importance of the plan, and that it is the essence of the gospel. (The missionary discussions are pretty much all one needs…)
4. He stresses the harshness of the spiritual condition his people were under—something that does not usually lend to ponderous insights into the gospel. And yet, he still leaves a very succinct summary of his time (one of the best in the Book of Mormon, in my opinion) and still adds many nuggets to the book.

It makes me ponder a little more on the bare necessities of the gospel, and the blessings of having much more than the bare necessities.

Jarom 1:1 Now behold, I, Jarom, write a few words according to the commandment of my father, Enos, that our genealogy may be kept.
2 And as these plates are small, and as these things are written for the intent of the benefit of our brethren the Lamanites, wherefore, it must needs be that I write a little; but I shall not write the things of my prophesying, nor of my revelations. For what could I write more than my fathers have written? For have not they revealed the plan of salvation? I say unto you, Yea; and this sufficeth me.
3 Behold, it is expedient that much should be done among this people, because of the hardness of their hearts, and the deafness of their ears, and the blindness of their minds, and the stiffness of their necks; nevertheless, God is exceedingly merciful unto them, and has not as yet swept them off from the face of the land.
4 And there are many among us who have many revelations, for they are not all stiffnecked. And as many as are not stiffnecked and have faith, have communion with the Holy Spirit, which maketh manifest unto the children of men, according to their faith.
5 And now, behold, two hundred years had passed away, and the people of Nephi had waxed strong in the land. They observed to keep the law of Moses and the sabbath day holy unto the Lord. And they profaned not; neither did they blaspheme. And the laws of the land were exceedingly strict.
6 And they were scattered upon much of the face of the land, and the Lamanites also. And they were exceedingly more numerous than were they of the Nephites; and they loved murder and would drink the blood of beasts.
7 And it came to pass that they came many times against us, the Nephites, to battle. But our kings and our leaders were mighty men in the faith of the Lord; and they taught the people the ways of the Lord; wherefore, we withstood the Lamanites and swept them away out of our lands, and began to fortify our cities, or whatsoever place of our inheritance.
8 And we multiplied exceedingly, and spread upon the face of the land, and became exceedingly rich in gold, and in silver, and in precious things, and in fine workmanship of wood, in buildings, and in machinery, and also in iron and copper, and brass and steel, making all manner of tools of every kind to till the ground, and weapons of war—yea, the sharp pointed arrow, and the quiver, and the dart, and the javelin, and all preparations for war.
9 And thus being prepared to meet the Lamanites, they did not prosper against us. But the word of the Lord was verified, which he spake unto our fathers, saying that: Inasmuch as ye will keep my commandments ye shall prosper in the land.
10 And it came to pass that the prophets of the Lord did threaten the people of Nephi, according to the word of God, that if they did not keep the commandments, but should fall into transgression, they should be destroyed from off the face of the land.
11 Wherefore, the prophets, and the priests, and the teachers, did labor diligently, exhorting with all long-suffering the people to diligence; teaching the law of Moses, and the intent for which it was given; persuading them to look forward unto the Messiah, and believe in him to come as though he already was. And after this manner did they teach them.
12 And it came to pass that by so doing they kept them from being destroyed upon the face of the land; for they did prick their hearts with the word, continually stirring them up unto repentance.
13 And it came to pass that two hundred and thirty and eight years had passed away—after the manner of wars, and contentions, and dissensions, for the space of much of the time.
14 And I, Jarom, do not write more, for the plates are small. But behold, my brethren, ye can go to the other plates of Nephi; for behold, upon them the records of our wars are engraven, according to the writings of the kings, or those which they caused to be written.
15 And I deliver these plates into the hands of my son Omni, that they may be kept according to the commandments of my fathers.

“Book of Mormon: Was Alma’s Desire to Be an Angel Fulfilled?” by grego

Book of Mormon: Was Alma’s Desire to Be an Angel Fulfilled?

(c) 2010

In Alma 29, Alma says:
1 O that I were an angel, and could have the wish of mine heart, that I might go forth and speak with the trump of God, with a voice to shake the earth, and cry repentance unto every people!
2 Yea, I would declare unto every soul, as with the voice of thunder, repentance and the plan of redemption, that they should repent and come unto our God, that there might not be more sorrow upon all the face of the earth.
7 Why should I desire that I were an angel, that I could speak unto all the ends of the earth?
8 For behold, the Lord doth grant unto all nations, of their own nation and tongue, to teach his word, yea, in wisdom, all that he seeth fit that they should have; therefore we see that the Lord doth counsel in wisdom, according to that which is just and true.

Later, we read that:
Alma 43:1 And now it came to pass that the sons of Alma did go forth among the people, to declare the word unto them. And Alma, also, himself, could not rest, and he also went forth.

Later, we discover that:
Alma 45:18 And when Alma had done this he departed out of the land of Zarahemla, as if to go into the land of Melek. And it came to pass that he was never heard of more; as to his death or burial we know not of.
19 Behold, this we know, that he was a righteous man; and the saying went abroad in the church that he was taken up by the Spirit, or buried by the hand of the Lord, even as Moses. But behold, the scriptures saith the Lord took Moses unto himself; and we suppose that he has also received Alma in the spirit, unto himself; therefore, for this cause we know nothing concerning his death and burial.

Was Alma taken up to receive his heart’s wish of being an angel and being able to preach the gospel on the earth (like John the Beloved)? ;)

This is another one of my thoughts hanging around from years ago that I’ve never gotten around to getting up on here…

“Book of Mormon | Alma 26 and Alma 36: Who is Stiff-Necked—the Nephites or the Lamanites?” by grego

Book of Mormon | Alma 26 and Alma 36: Who is Stiff-Necked—the Nephites or the Lamanites?


Towards the end of their 14-year mission to the Lamanites, Ammon says:
Alma 26:23 Now do ye remember, my brethren, that we said unto our brethren in the land of Zarahemla, we go up to the land of Nephi, to preach unto our brethren, the Lamanites, and they laughed us to scorn?
24 For they said unto us: Do ye suppose that ye can bring the Lamanites to the knowledge of the truth? Do ye suppose that ye can convince the Lamanites of the incorrectness of the traditions of their fathers, as *stiffnecked a people as they are*; whose hearts delight in the shedding of blood; whose days have been spent in the grossest iniquity; whose ways have been the ways of a transgressor from the beginning? Now my brethren, ye remember that this was their language.
25 And moreover they did say: Let us take up arms against them, that we destroy them and their iniquity out of the land, lest they overrun us and destroy us.

Just a few years later, Alma tells his son Helaman:
Alma 37:9 Yea, I say unto you, were it not for these things that these records do contain, which are on these plates, *Ammon and his brethren could not have convinced so many thousands of the Lamanites of the incorrect tradition of their fathers*; yea, these records and their words brought them unto repentance; that is, they brought them to the knowledge of the Lord their God, and to rejoice in Jesus Christ their Redeemer.
10 And who knoweth but what they will be the means of bringing many thousands of them, yea, and also many thousands of *our stiffnecked brethren, the Nephites*, who are now hardening their hearts in sin and iniquities, to the knowledge of their Redeemer?

Well, what do you know? The Nephites who in about 92 BC judged the Lamanites as “stiffnecked” are, in about 73 BC stiffnecked!

LDS/ Mormon: Energy Work and Healing: From Satan, God, or Man?

LDS/ Mormon: Energy Healing: From Satan, God, or Man?


In addition to this post, I suggest the interested reader continue by reading:

“Book of Mormon: Three Spirits: God, Devil, and Man” by grego

“LDS/ Mormon Energy Healing: Occult, New Age, or Complementary with the Gospel and LDS Church?: A Critique of the Article ‘Energy Healing'” by grego

In my experience, most energy healing falls under the spirit of man, though they can be tools for God or Satan. It is generally accepted that most can only work on good principles, though they are disguised to members of the LDS church as evil (ironic, eh?).
And I have run into some that are clearly not of God.

As with all things, try their spirit!

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