Book of Mormon Notes– How deep can you dig?

2009, April 16

Book of Mormon | “Who Were the Lamanites that Were Baptized with Fire and the Holy Ghost that Jesus Christ Refers to in 3 Nephi 9:20?”

Who Were the Lamanites that Were Baptized with Fire and the Holy Ghost that Jesus Christ Refers to in 3 Nephi 9:20?
by grego
(c) 2009

In 3 Nephi 9:20 we read Christ saying: “And ye shall offer for a sacrifice unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit. And whoso cometh unto me with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, him will I baptize with fire and with the Holy Ghost, even as the Lamanites, because of *their faith in me* at the time of their conversion, were *baptized with fire and with the Holy Ghost*, and *they knew it not*”.

Who are these Lamanites that Jesus is referring to? Some have mistakenly taught that they are the Anti-Nephi-Lehites. Here is the event, which is indeed marvelous:

Helaman 5:20 And it came to pass that Nephi and Lehi did proceed from thence to go to the land of Nephi.

Helaman 5:21 And it came to pass that they were taken by an army of the Lamanites and cast into prison…

Helaman 5:22 And after they had been cast into prison many days without food, behold, they went forth into the prison to take them that they might slay them.

Helaman 5:23 And it came to pass that Nephi and Lehi were encircled about as if by fire, …
Helaman 5:25 …but stood as if they were struck dumb with amazement.

Helaman 5:26 And it came to pass that Nephi and Lehi did stand forth and began to speak unto them, saying: Fear not, for behold, it is God that has shown unto you this marvelous thing, in the which is shown unto you that ye cannot lay your hands on us to slay us.

Helaman 5:27 And behold, when they had said these words, the earth shook exceedingly, and the walls of the prison did shake as if they were about to tumble to the earth; but behold, they did not fall. And behold, they that were in the prison were Lamanites and Nephites who were dissenters.

Helaman 5:28 And it came to pass that they were overshadowed with a cloud of darkness, and an awful solemn fear came upon them.

Helaman 5:29 And it came to pass that there came a voice as if it were above the cloud of darkness, saying: Repent ye, repent ye, and seek no more to destroy my servants whom I have sent unto you to declare good tidings.

Helaman 5:30 And it came to pass when they heard this voice, and beheld that it was not a voice of thunder, neither was it a voice of a great tumultuous noise, but behold, it was a still voice of perfect mildness, as if it had been a whisper, and it did pierce even to the very soul–

Helaman 5:31 And notwithstanding the mildness of the voice, behold the earth shook exceedingly, and the walls of the prison trembled again, as if it were about to tumble to the earth; and behold the cloud of darkness, which had overshadowed them, did not disperse–

Helaman 5:32 And behold the voice came again, saying: Repent ye, repent ye, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand; and seek no more to destroy my servants. And it came to pass that the earth shook again, and the walls trembled.

Helaman 5:34 And it came to pass that the Lamanites could not flee because of the cloud of darkness which did overshadow them; yea, and also they were immovable because of the fear which did come upon them.

Helaman 5:38
And they said unto the man: Behold, what do all these things mean, and who is it with whom these men do converse?

Helaman 5:39
Now the man’s name was Aminadab. And Aminadab said unto them: They do converse with the angels of God.

Helaman 5:40
And it came to pass that the Lamanites said unto him: What shall we do, that this cloud of darkness may be removed from overshadowing us?

Helaman 5:41
And Aminadab said unto them: You must repent, and cry unto the voice, even until *ye shall have faith in Christ*, who was taught unto you by Alma, and Amulek, and Zeezrom; and *when ye shall do this, the cloud of darkness shall be removed from overshadowing you*.

Helaman 5:42
And it came to pass that they all did begin to cry unto the voice of him who had shaken the earth; yea, they did cry even until the cloud of darkness was dispersed.

Helaman 5:43
And it came to pass that when they cast their eyes about, and saw that the cloud of darkness was dispersed from overshadowing them, behold, *they saw that they were encircled about, yea every soul, by a pillar of fire*.

Helaman 5:44
And Nephi and Lehi were in the midst of them; yea, they were encircled about; yea, they were as if in the midst of a flaming fire, yet it did harm them not, neither did it take hold upon the walls of the prison; and they were filled with that joy which is unspeakable and full of glory.

Helaman 5:45
And behold, *the Holy Spirit of God* did come down from heaven, and did *enter into their hearts*, and they were *filled as if with fire*, and they could speak forth marvelous words.

Helaman 5:46
And it came to pass that there came a voice unto them, yea, a pleasant voice, as if it were a whisper, saying:

Helaman 5:47
Peace, peace be unto you, because of *your faith in my Well Beloved*, who was from the foundation of the world.

Helaman 5:48
And now, when they heard this they cast up their eyes as if to behold from whence the voice came; and behold, they saw the heavens open; and angels came down out of heaven and ministered unto them.


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2009, February 27

“The Ministering of Angels versus the Holy Ghost” by grego

“The Ministering of Angels versus the Holy Ghost”
by grego

So, what’s the difference between the minstering of angels and the Holy Ghost?
I think there are a few things:
1. For most LDS/ Mormons, the Holy Ghost (including His gifts) will suffice for and be used for most things, especially spiritual.
2. Angels are more for temporal salvation, especially when there is immediate and clear need of more, and when there is no path already prepared.
3. Angels also appear to give clear messages, help, teachings, etc. Angels are more involved with helping those who, through lack of prayer or ordinance or worthiness, don’t or cannot receive the Holy Ghost and His help.
4. Angels may let one clearly understand, as a sign beforehand, that there was heavenly involvement in a matter. Certain things might need hands to perform, too.

As with all true heavenly things, the Holy Ghost and angels will not conflict in any way.

So, is that a complete list? Nope.
Is any of that doctrine? Not that I’m aware of.
Is it helpful? It has been for me!

The Book of Mormon clearly testifies multiple times of both the Holy Ghost and His gifts, and the ministering of angels. Next time through, note the occurrences and the conditions of both.


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