Book of Mormon Notes– How deep can you dig?

2010, March 3

“Holy Bible and Book of Mormon: The Destruction of the Promised Land People” by grego

“Holy Bible and Book of Mormon: The Destruction of the Promised Land People”

(c) 2010

There is lots of flack about an unloving Old Testament God because he killed people to make way for his “promised” people.

Not so, really.

The Book of Mormon throws clear light on the situation:
1 Nephi 17:23 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, spake unto them, saying:…
32 And after they had crossed the river Jordan he did make them mighty unto the driving out of the children of the land, yea, unto the scattering them to destruction.
33 And now, do ye suppose that the children of this land, who were in the land of promise, who were driven out by our fathers, do ye suppose that they were righteous? Behold, I say unto you, Nay.
34 Do ye suppose that our fathers would have been more choice than they if they had been righteous? I say unto you, Nay.
35 Behold, the Lord esteemeth all flesh in one; he that is righteous is favored of God. But behold, this people had rejected every word of God, and they were ripe in iniquity; and the fulness of the wrath of God was upon them; and the Lord did curse the land against them, and bless it unto our fathers; yea, he did curse it against them unto their destruction, and he did bless it unto our fathers unto their obtaining power over it.
36 Behold, the Lord hath created the earth that it should be inhabited; and he hath created his children that they should possess it.
37 And he raiseth up a righteous nation, and destroyeth the nations of the wicked.
38 And he leadeth away the righteous into precious lands, and the wicked he destroyeth, and curseth the land unto them for their sakes.

Notwithstanding the fickleness and unstableness of Moses’ people, they were still way above others at the time. The people who had been living in the promised land had been “ripe in iniquity”, having “rejected every word of God”, and their destruction at the hand of the Israelites/ Hebrews (not “the Jews”) led by Moses/ Joshua was his judgment upon them.

Does the Bible have anything to say?

Yes, it does. However, it seems to be missed by most readers, maybe because it occurs much earlier than the Exodus; it’s in Genesis 15:16. Here it is, with a little context:
Genesis 15:7 And he said unto him, I am the Lord that brought thee (Abraham) out of Ur of the Chaldees, to give thee this land to inherit it.
8 And he said, Lord God, whereby shall I know that I shall inherit it?
13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

God is clear here that while the land has been promised, the time is not yet for Abraham’s seed to inherit the land, because “the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full”. Even though God knew that the Amorites and all others living there would fully reject his word, His judgment and destruction would not be righteous until that happened. After they were “ripe in iniquity”, Abraham’s seed would inherit the land, as there wasn’t space for them at the time; so until that time, Abraham’s covenant seed would be in Egypt.

2010, February 22

“Holy Bible: Lot and His Daughters in Genesis 19” by grego

Holy Bible: Lot and His Daughters in Genesis 19

(c) 2010

Sunday we discussed Lot and his daughters (shocked me!), in Genesis 19.

Lot was told to leave Sodom and Gomorrah; he didn’t want to.
He was told to escape to the mountain; he didn’t want to.
He preferred Zoar, a nearby city. The Lord said ok, go there, the city will be safe because of your wish, I’ve prepared the way.
Lot flees there, then after Sodom and Gommorah are destroyed, he goes up to the mountain and dwells in a cave, because of fear. (I imagine he was afraid because Abraham had battled Zoar and rescued him, and Abraham wasn’t there anymore; why would a stranger settle in Zoar? I can imagine his mind: “What if they find out?
‘Lot–you mean *the* Lot Abraham saved’ as they sharpen their swords…”)
His daughters live in the cave far away from others; their husbands have been destroyed (Genesis 19:14) in the destruction of Sodom and Gommorah.
They lose hope, sleep with their father, and have children.

This made me think about them and the contrast with Abraham and his desire for seed; the promises of the Lord; Abraham’s faithfulness and patience.
It made me think about wanting X so much, then when the Lord gives us X, we get scared and give it up for something else.
It made me think about Lot: first he goes where he shouldn’t, then he goes where he shouldn’t, then he goes where he shouldn’t; likely all because of fear. Contrast that with Abraham, who went everywhere he should, even in the face of great fear and danger. By following the Spirit, he nevertheless avoided all danger, and was even deeply blessed in many ways.
It made me think, if mother had been faithful instead of looking back and becoming a pillar of salt, her daughters wouldn’t have slept with father.
Anything else?

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