Book of Mormon Notes– How deep can you dig?

2011, March 16

“Book of Mormon: Did a Comet Cause the Destruction near the Time of Jesus’ Visit to the Nephites and Lamanites in 3 Nephi 8; and Was There a Volcano Involved?” by grego

Book of Mormon: Did a Comet Cause the Destruction near the Time of Jesus’ Visit to the Nephites and Lamanites in 3 Nephi 8; and Was There a Volcano Involved?

grego

(c)2011

UPDATE: Well, after searching even more, I found a website that already guessed
this, and does a much better job at explaining it: http://www.bookofmormonpromisedland.com/Q%20&%20A.htm

Here is a description of the local destruction at the time of Jesus’ visit to the Nephites and Lamanites:

3 Nephi 8:5 And it came to pass in the thirty and fourth year, in the first month, on the fourth day of the month, there arose a great storm, such an one as never had been known in all the land.
6 And there was also a great and terrible tempest; and there was terrible thunder, insomuch that it did shake the whole earth as if it was about to divide asunder.
7 And there were exceedingly sharp lightnings, such as never had been known in all the land.
8 And the city of Zarahemla did take fire.
9 And the city of Moroni did sink into the depths of the sea, and the inhabitants thereof were drowned.
10 And the earth was carried up upon the city of Moronihah, that in the place of the city there became a great mountain.
11 And there was a great and terrible destruction in the land southward.
12 But behold, there was a more great and terrible destruction in the land northward; for behold, the whole face of the land was changed, because of the tempest and the whirlwinds, and the thunderings and the lightnings, and the exceedingly great quaking of the whole earth;
13 And the highways were broken up, and the level roads were spoiled, and many smooth places became rough.
14 And many great and notable cities were sunk, and many were burned, and many were shaken till the buildings thereof had fallen to the earth, and the inhabitants thereof were slain, and the places were left desolate.
15 And there were some cities which remained; but the damage thereof was exceedingly great, and there were many in them who were slain.
16 And there were some who were carried away in the whirlwind; and whither they went no man knoweth, save they know that they were carried away.
17 And thus the face of the whole earth became deformed, because of the tempests, and the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the quaking of the earth.
18 And behold, the rocks were rent in twain; they were broken up upon the face of the whole earth, insomuch that they were found in broken fragments, and in seams and in cracks, upon all the face of the land.
19 And it came to pass that when the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the storm, and the tempest, and the quakings of the earth did cease—for behold, they did last for about the space of three hours; and it was said by some that the time was greater; nevertheless, all these great and terrible things were done in about the space of three hours—and then behold, there was darkness upon the face of the land.
20 And it came to pass that there was thick darkness upon all the face of the land, insomuch that the inhabitants thereof who had not fallen could feel the vapor of darkness;
21 And there could be no light, because of the darkness, neither candles, neither torches; neither could there be fire kindled with their fine and exceedingly dry wood, so that there could not be any light at all;
22 And there was not any light seen, neither fire, nor glimmer, neither the sun, nor the moon, nor the stars, for so great were the mists of darkness which were upon the face of the land.
23 And it came to pass that it did last for the space of three days that there was no light seen; and there was great mourning and howling and weeping among all the people continually; yea, great were the groanings of the people, because of the darkness and the great destruction which had come upon them.

3 Nephi 9:8 And behold, the city of Gadiandi, and the city of Gadiomnah, and the city of Jacob, and the city of Gimgimno, all these have I caused to be sunk, and made hills and valleys in the places thereof; and the inhabitants thereof have I buried up in the depths of the earth…
9 And it came to pass that thus did the three days pass away. And it was in the morning, and the darkness dispersed from off the face of the land, and the earth did cease to tremble, and the rocks did cease to rend, and the dreadful groanings did cease, and all the tumultuous noises did pass away.
10 And the earth did cleave together again, that it stood…

3 Nephi 10:14 … all these deaths and destructions by fire, and by smoke, and by tempests, and by whirlwinds, and by the opening of the earth to receive them, and all these things are not unto the fulfilling of the prophecies of many of the holy prophets.

I used to wonder, what a coincidence, all these destructions going on at the same time: great storm(s), lightning and thunder, fire (from heavens?), whirlwinds (tornadoes?), earth-quaking/ movement of mountains/ sinking of land (sinkholes?), dark vapor where nothing could be lit.

With some serendipity, I found an answer: a comet.

Were a comet to hit the land, it could cause all of that. (See, for example: http://www.thunderbolts.info/webnews/122107doomsdaycomet.htm, etc.)

In addition to “vapor” being used to describe the darkness, note that there is nothing about lava or suffocation; ash would not prevent fire; and after three days ash would not suddenly disappear. This strongly hints that the darkness is instead a wet mist of very small particle size, having nothing to do with a volcano.

2009, April 16

Book of Mormon: “A Broken Heart and a Contrite Spirit” by grego

Book of Mormon: “A Broken Heart and a Contrite Spirit”
by grego
(c) 2009 (in this format)

When Jesus Christ visits the Nephites and speaks of having fulfilled the Law of Moses, He tells them:

3 Nephi 9:19 And ye shall offer up unto me no more the shedding of blood; yea, your sacrifices and your burnt offerings shall be done away, for I will accept none of your sacrifices and your burnt offerings.

3 Nephi 9:20 And ye shall offer for a sacrifice unto me *a broken heart and a contrite spirit*. And whoso cometh unto me with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, him will I baptize with fire and with the Holy Ghost, even as the Lamanites, because of their faith in me at the time of their conversion, were baptized with fire and with the Holy Ghost, and they knew it not.

Many have taken this to mean a change, a new sacrifice; but is that the case?. Notice what Lehi says, over 600 years before that:

2 Nephi 2:7 Behold, he offereth himself a sacrifice for sin, to answer the ends of the law, unto all those who have a broken heart and a contrite spirit; and unto none else can the ends of the law be answered.


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Book of Mormon | “Who Were the Lamanites that Were Baptized with Fire and the Holy Ghost that Jesus Christ Refers to in 3 Nephi 9:20?”

Who Were the Lamanites that Were Baptized with Fire and the Holy Ghost that Jesus Christ Refers to in 3 Nephi 9:20?
by grego
(c) 2009

In 3 Nephi 9:20 we read Christ saying: “And ye shall offer for a sacrifice unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit. And whoso cometh unto me with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, him will I baptize with fire and with the Holy Ghost, even as the Lamanites, because of *their faith in me* at the time of their conversion, were *baptized with fire and with the Holy Ghost*, and *they knew it not*”.

Who are these Lamanites that Jesus is referring to? Some have mistakenly taught that they are the Anti-Nephi-Lehites. Here is the event, which is indeed marvelous:

Helaman 5:20 And it came to pass that Nephi and Lehi did proceed from thence to go to the land of Nephi.

Helaman 5:21 And it came to pass that they were taken by an army of the Lamanites and cast into prison…

Helaman 5:22 And after they had been cast into prison many days without food, behold, they went forth into the prison to take them that they might slay them.

Helaman 5:23 And it came to pass that Nephi and Lehi were encircled about as if by fire, …
Helaman 5:25 …but stood as if they were struck dumb with amazement.

Helaman 5:26 And it came to pass that Nephi and Lehi did stand forth and began to speak unto them, saying: Fear not, for behold, it is God that has shown unto you this marvelous thing, in the which is shown unto you that ye cannot lay your hands on us to slay us.

Helaman 5:27 And behold, when they had said these words, the earth shook exceedingly, and the walls of the prison did shake as if they were about to tumble to the earth; but behold, they did not fall. And behold, they that were in the prison were Lamanites and Nephites who were dissenters.

Helaman 5:28 And it came to pass that they were overshadowed with a cloud of darkness, and an awful solemn fear came upon them.

Helaman 5:29 And it came to pass that there came a voice as if it were above the cloud of darkness, saying: Repent ye, repent ye, and seek no more to destroy my servants whom I have sent unto you to declare good tidings.

Helaman 5:30 And it came to pass when they heard this voice, and beheld that it was not a voice of thunder, neither was it a voice of a great tumultuous noise, but behold, it was a still voice of perfect mildness, as if it had been a whisper, and it did pierce even to the very soul–

Helaman 5:31 And notwithstanding the mildness of the voice, behold the earth shook exceedingly, and the walls of the prison trembled again, as if it were about to tumble to the earth; and behold the cloud of darkness, which had overshadowed them, did not disperse–

Helaman 5:32 And behold the voice came again, saying: Repent ye, repent ye, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand; and seek no more to destroy my servants. And it came to pass that the earth shook again, and the walls trembled.

Helaman 5:34 And it came to pass that the Lamanites could not flee because of the cloud of darkness which did overshadow them; yea, and also they were immovable because of the fear which did come upon them.

Helaman 5:38
And they said unto the man: Behold, what do all these things mean, and who is it with whom these men do converse?

Helaman 5:39
Now the man’s name was Aminadab. And Aminadab said unto them: They do converse with the angels of God.

Helaman 5:40
And it came to pass that the Lamanites said unto him: What shall we do, that this cloud of darkness may be removed from overshadowing us?

Helaman 5:41
And Aminadab said unto them: You must repent, and cry unto the voice, even until *ye shall have faith in Christ*, who was taught unto you by Alma, and Amulek, and Zeezrom; and *when ye shall do this, the cloud of darkness shall be removed from overshadowing you*.

Helaman 5:42
And it came to pass that they all did begin to cry unto the voice of him who had shaken the earth; yea, they did cry even until the cloud of darkness was dispersed.

Helaman 5:43
And it came to pass that when they cast their eyes about, and saw that the cloud of darkness was dispersed from overshadowing them, behold, *they saw that they were encircled about, yea every soul, by a pillar of fire*.

Helaman 5:44
And Nephi and Lehi were in the midst of them; yea, they were encircled about; yea, they were as if in the midst of a flaming fire, yet it did harm them not, neither did it take hold upon the walls of the prison; and they were filled with that joy which is unspeakable and full of glory.

Helaman 5:45
And behold, *the Holy Spirit of God* did come down from heaven, and did *enter into their hearts*, and they were *filled as if with fire*, and they could speak forth marvelous words.

Helaman 5:46
And it came to pass that there came a voice unto them, yea, a pleasant voice, as if it were a whisper, saying:

Helaman 5:47
Peace, peace be unto you, because of *your faith in my Well Beloved*, who was from the foundation of the world.

Helaman 5:48
And now, when they heard this they cast up their eyes as if to behold from whence the voice came; and behold, they saw the heavens open; and angels came down out of heaven and ministered unto them.


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