Book of Mormon Notes– How deep can you dig?

2010, June 1

“Book of Mormon: Why Didn’t the Nephites Who Wanted a Government, Form One?” by grego

“Book of Mormon: Why Didn’t the Nephites Who Wanted a Government, Form One?”

grego
(c) 2010

I have wondered why the Nephites let their government dissolve, but most importantly, why they didn’t reestablish it after the Gadianton robbers gathered and left. What was in their way of doing that? From very organized with a chief judge, to separate tribes—and they stayed there! Here are the relevant verses:

3 Nephi 7:1 Now behold, I will show unto you that they did not establish a king over the land; but in this same year, yea, the thirtieth year, they did destroy upon the judgment-seat, yea, did murder the chief judge of the land.
2 And the people were divided one against another; and they did separate one from another into tribes, every man according to his family and his kindred and friends; and thus they did destroy the government of the land.
3 And every tribe did appoint a chief or a leader over them; and thus they became tribes and leaders of tribes.
6 And the regulations of the government were destroyed, because of the secret combination of the friends and kindreds of those who murdered the prophets.
7 And they did cause a great contention in the land, insomuch that the more righteous part of the people had nearly all become wicked; yea, there were but few righteous men among them.
9 Now this secret combination, which had brought so great iniquity upon the people, did gather themselves together, and did place at their head a man whom they did call Jacob;
11 And it came to pass that they were not so strong in number as the tribes of the people, who were united together save it were their leaders did establish their laws, every one according to his tribe; {nevertheless they were enemies}; notwithstanding they were not a righteous people, yet {they were united in the hatred of those who had entered into a covenant to destroy the government}.
12 Therefore, Jacob seeing that their enemies were more numerous than they, he being the king of the band, therefore he commanded his people that they should take their flight into the northernmost part of the land, and there build up unto themselves a kingdom, until they were joined by dissenters, (for he flattered them that there would be many dissenters) and they become sufficiently strong to contend with the tribes of the people; and they did so.
13 And so speedy was their march that it could not be impeded until they had gone forth out of the reach of the people…

Perhaps a year after the division, the tribes had at least a decent peace with each other:
3 Nephi 7:14 And it came to pass in the *thirty and first year that they were divided into tribes, every man according to his family, kindred and friends; nevertheless they had come to an agreement that they would not go to war one with another; but they were not united as to their laws, and their manner of government, for they were established according to the minds of those who were their chiefs and their leaders. But they did establish very strict laws that one tribe should not trespass against another, insomuch that in some degree they had peace in the land…

Why, if they had all power to, and they hated those who destroyed their form of government—why didn’t they get it back?

2010, April 24

“Book of Mormon: Chapter Heading Correction of 3 Nephi 7: Jacob the Antichrist” by grego

“Book of Mormon: Chapter Heading Correction of 3 Nephi 7: Jacob the Antichrist”

grego
(c) 2010

Part of the current chapter heading of 3 Nephi 7 reads:

“Jacob, an antichrist, becomes king of a league of tribes”.

This is incorrect; he became king of just one tribe/ band out of the many, which, in fact, was the one outcast tribe:

3 Nephi 7:9 Now this secret combination, which had brought so great iniquity upon the people, did gather themselves together, and did place at their head a man whom they did call Jacob;
10 And they did call him their king; therefore he became a king over this wicked band…
11 And it came to pass that they were not so strong in number as the tribes of the people, who were united together save it were their leaders did establish their laws, every one according to his tribe; nevertheless they were enemies; notwithstanding they were not a righteous people, yet they were united in the hatred of those who had entered into a covenant to destroy the government.

2009, December 23

“Book of Mormon: Correction to Chapter heading (regarding Jacob) for 3 Nephi 7” by grego

“Book of Mormon: Correction to Chapter heading (regarding Jacob) for 3 Nephi 7”

grego
(c) 2009

A short one this time; it has to do with the chapter heading for 3 Nephi 7, which reads in the Book of Mormon as:

“Jacob, an antichrist, becomes king of a league of tribes”

Actually, he becomes king of band/ ONE tribe out of the many tribes that rose up.

2009, December 22

“Book of Mormon: What to Do with the Robbers?” by grego

Book of Mormon: What to Do with the Robbers?

grego
(c) 2009

The Book of Mormon says:
3 Nephi 7:3 And they granted unto those robbers who had entered into a covenant to keep the peace of the land, who were desirous to remain Lamanites, lands, according to their numbers, that they might have, with their labors, wherewith to subsist upon; and thus they did establish peace in all the land.

The robbers had given up in their war and were captives; some repented of all their sins, but others, like these, didn’t want to. Still, they were granted (was that “given” or “loaned”?) land so that they could live by their labors; essentially, they were granted a place to live and work to do, but no further government handouts.

No slaves; no prison. Result? Peace.

There is nothing later in the record that denotes any type of returning to their robbing or unrighteousness at all; in fact, the next Gadianton robbers are a very different set of people (judges, lawyers, ex-high priests).

Joseph Smith, while running for President of the United States of America, http://reason.com/blog/2007/12/06/the-single-weirdest-fact-about :
“opposed incarceration for all crimes but murder. Instead, miscreants ought to work on the roads or ‘any place where the culprit can be taught more wisdom and more virtue.’ Smith reminded those hardhearts who doubted that criminals might be reformed that ‘Love conquers all.'” Also, “Petition your state legislatures to pardon every convict in their several penitentiaries,” Smith urged, “blessing them as they go, and saying to them in the name of the Lord, go thy way and sin no more!”

If much of the growth of the robbers occurred during the reign of the Gadianton robbers in the judgment seat (Helaman 7-11) and perhaps the government had contributed to their problem, and only the less-convinced and less-opposed and less-wicked robbers surrendered while the harcore ones died fighting or received capital punishment for their unrepentant ways, and thus left out capital punishment even for the robbers?

I imagine it was a little more complicated than that; could some form of this idea work?

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