Book of Mormon Notes– How deep can you dig?

2008, November 26

Book Of Mormon | Alma 50:32–A Verse in Support of “Others” in the Lands?

Book Of Mormon | Alma 50:32–A Verse in Support of “Others” in the Lands?
by grego

Ok, I’m hardly an “others” proponent. I believe I’ve ripped up pretty well the majority of the often-quoted verses that most people claim as evidence or even proof of “others” in the Book of Mormon lands (outside of the few groups specifically mentioned in the Book of Mormon), in my very long, 3-part series on “Others” on my old blog,

But over a year ago, I ran into these verses (one verse in particular):

Alma 50:28 And it came to pass that when the people of Morianton, who were led by a man whose name was Morianton, found that the people of Lehi had fled to the camp of Moroni, they were exceedingly fearful lest the army of Moroni should come upon them and destroy them.

Alma 50:29 Therefore, Morianton put it into their hearts that they should flee to the land which was northward, which was covered with large bodies of water, and take possession of the land which was northward.

Alma 50:30 And behold, they would have carried this plan into effect, (which would have been a cause to have been lamented) but behold, Morianton being a man of much passion, therefore he was angry with one of his maid servants, and he fell upon her and beat her much.

Alma 50:31 And it came to pass that she fled, and came over to the camp of Moroni, and told Moroni all things concerning the matter, and also concerning their intentions to flee into the land northward.

Alma 50:32 Now behold, the people who were in the land Bountiful, or rather Moroni, feared that they would hearken to the words of Morianton and unite with his people, and thus he would obtain possession of those parts of the land, which would lay a foundation for serious consequences among the people of Nephi, yea, which consequences would lead to the overthrow of their liberty.

Alma 50:33 Therefore Moroni sent an army, with their camp, to head the people of Morianton, to stop their flight into the land northward.

Alma 50:34 And it came to pass that they did not head them until they had come to the borders of the land Desolation; and there they did head them, by the narrow pass which led by the sea into the land northward, yea, by the sea, on the west and on the east.

A few things about this:

1. Who is “they” in Alma 50:32? It can’t be Nephites (can it?), the northern migrations haven’t happened yet, the Jaredites have been destroyed, and the Lamanites are south of them, not north. (Or is this one of those tricky Book of Mormon directions questions?)

2. I don’t think Morianton and his people were *that* numerous and “bad”, were they? I mean, it’s just one city out of many, perhaps even hundreds. But what if the inhabitants were numerous? It seems that there are others in the land northward, and that Morianton and his people joining them as Nephite “enemies” might cause attacks from the north–making the Nephites fight a war on two opposing fronts (north and south) at once. (Remember, the Lamanites are at the south.)

3. Moroni, as other military leaders, are based in Bountiful. But isn’t Bountiful in the north, at least (far) north of Zarahemla? If the Lamanites are in the south, was this because the Nephites wanted their military headquarters out of danger… or because there were threats from these northern people?

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